Unconfused: I think that the original DVD postings on YouTubes were equally by current and ex-JWs. While they were still up, I counted at least eight different uploads and it seemed that the posters represented a pretty good mix of all of us.
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Juan Viejo2
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Any reaction from active JW's about the Sparlock training video?
by UnConfused inare jw's all abuzz about the "blessing" the gb has given them in the form of this new training video?.
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Showed the new JW cartoon to my non-witness Girlfriend- Take 2
by KidKool inallright my first post messed up and i lost it some kind of way.
haven't posted on here in along time, obviously don't know how to anymore.. trying again.. so i was raised a jw, da for over a decade, of course estranged from parents and jw family, have a teenage son from a previous relationship.. anyways, i wanted to see what someone who had no first hand knowledge of the jws would think.
so i showed my non-jw girlfriend the obey jehovah (go sparlock!
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DT - I did tape the talk final talk using a recording app in my Droid. Unfortunately the acoustics in the arena were pretty bad and there was both a hollow sound and an echo. I may try to run it through Audacity to see if I can clean it up a bit and then post it on one of my websites.
In the meantime, you can pop over to Ex-JW.com and read my brief article about how the speaker emphasized that the DVD was not meant to entertain children, but to "inculcate" the [JW] truth into youthful JWs.
BTW, a brief comment was made that the child in the video was supposed to be 3 or 4 years old. But the kid says that he got the toy from "a friend at school." It's pretty clear that the writers of this video have no idea about childrens intellect, experiences or development at certain ages.
BTW - did anyone figure out what the "snack" might have been that his mother fixed him for lunch?
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so much for the new jw.org web site being up and running in June
by therevealer inwe are working on a new design for jw.org and expect it to be available around september 1, 2012.. this is on the web site, so even with free labor and jah's spirit they couldn't make the june timeline.
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For anyone interested in a little more commentary RE: Sparlock of Satan, you might check this out. Has some great vids on it...
http://ex-jw.com/jehovahs-friend-dvd-announced
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so much for the new jw.org web site being up and running in June
by therevealer inwe are working on a new design for jw.org and expect it to be available around september 1, 2012.. this is on the web site, so even with free labor and jah's spirit they couldn't make the june timeline.
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I forgot to mention that at the District Assembly Saturday afternoon session, when they announced the new DVD, the reception of the audience was lukewarm. It was more like the polite clapping you hear between the symposium talks, rather than the usual excitement when a new release is announced.
After that underwhelming response to the DVD announcement, instead of a video preview (there was no drop-down screen in this venue), they played that kids song that is on the video - the whole thing. I have to admit that the kids voices were cute, but like all JW songs, it was way too long and extremely boring. I could see that everyone was using the time during the song to pack up and get ready to make a break as soon as the final prayer was over. Again, after the final announcements, polite but lukewarm clapping.
I hung back to see whether the crush of excited families would push one of the sisters handing out the DVDs over the rail and into the depths below. No such luck. I was somewhat surprised to see that many families didn't even stop to take a DVD but just continued on and down the ramp. The sister in my area looked disappointed that more people weren't pushing and shoving and catching a feel - but barely took notice of her.
I looked at the main floor and saw the same thing going on. Everyone seemed to be rushing for the exits while the sisters handing out the DVDs just stood there with four or five copies in their hands hoping that someone would ask them for a copy.
When I finally moved toward the exit I stopped to pick up a copy. I wasn't wearing a tie or a badge, so I figured that I might meet with a little resistance when I asked for one from the sister. I noticed that the first box (they'd stacked two cartons on the floor) was only about 1/2 empty and the other carton was untouched. The sister actually offered me two DVDs and asked if I wanted more when I told her that I would like one for my granddaughters. She seemed to take no note of my lack of proper JW attire.
Since this was the second DA to be held in the same area in two weeks, I'm wondering if the word got out and many of the attendees had already seen the video and rightly assumed that it was a waste of time and would just clutter up their entertainment center. My guess is that many had already seen the video on YouTube and may have read some of the negative commentary (thanks to Cedars and other the fine exes) on this site and others.
One other thing I noticed: When the boxes of DVDs were delivered to the distribution locations, the contribution boxes were brought out the same time and placed downwind from each DVD handler. Boxes were positioned about 30 feet apart with a sister sitting next to them. The speaker also took some time to make an announcement that ATMs were available, two on each side of each of the main exits - and that everyone should feel free to use them.
Earlier, a speaker mentioned that they needed more helpers for the cleanup crews. But I was still surprised to see some brothers carrying brooms into the main floor of the assembly hall while the session was still going on - at the same time that the DVD boxes and contribution boxes were being delivered and set up.
To me it seemed like the assembly committee was saying, "Get your damn DVD, put your money in the contribution box or ATM, and then get the hell out!" And that's exactly what most of them did. But after sitting there without a break for almost 4 solid hours, I couldn't blame them.
There wasn't a lot of chit-chat and fellowship going on after the session was over. I didn't hang around for more than ten minutes, but by the time I worked my way out, the parking lots were almost empty.
When I left I didn't see anyone using the ATMs, and I saw a lot of lonely sisters sitting next to contribution boxes looking like woeful wallflowers at a senior prom.
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so much for the new jw.org web site being up and running in June
by therevealer inwe are working on a new design for jw.org and expect it to be available around september 1, 2012.. this is on the web site, so even with free labor and jah's spirit they couldn't make the june timeline.
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When the infamous Sparlock video was released at the Pacific Northwest District Assembly last Saturday, the speaker (Brother Sahid?) announced that the first DVD was "an exception." He clearly stated that future "Be Jehovah's Friend" videos would be released online at the "new JW.org website." He also implied that other videos and audio downloads would be available as well. When he mentioned the smaller sizes of the magazines, he indicated that approach would make them easier to distribute. He said something like "those we meet in our door-to-door service will be less intimidated by the smaller sizes and more likely to read everything in the magazines." We'll see...
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Jehovah hates magic?
by jean-luc picard inthen why does he practice it?.
didnt he give moses magical powers to prove to pharaoh that he was sent by jehooovah?.
so maybe sparlock is jehovah's emissary..
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Professional magicians are the first ones to tell you that there is no such thing as "magic," only illusion. Many have spent years researching and chasing down reports of so-called "real magic" - but not a single example has ever been found. There are some amazing, and in some cases, unexplainable examples of visual trickery. In most cases, even the most amazing magic can be explained with a little research.
An excellent movie from 2006, "The Illusionist," starring Edward Norton and Paul Giamatti, demonstrates this quite well. Harry "Houdini" spent his life looking for evidence of real spiritism and unexplained magicians' tricks. I've seen some amazing tricks on YouTube and in other videos that defy explanation, but in every case it always boils down to slight-of-hand, misdirection, or some mechanical prop that makes everything work.
When I was younger I worked for the telephone company in Hollywood, California. On at least two occasions I had to make service calls at famed Magic Castle in the Hollywood Hills. This was in the late 1960s, so things may have changed a lot since then, but in those days the telephone equipment was located near a workshop-storage room. I seem to recall having to sign a form agreeing to keep anything I saw confidential. If I was found to have given away any professional secrets, both my company and I individually could be sued for breach of confidence. When our technicians had to go there, most of the devices were carefully hidden away or covered with sheets or tarps. Anything visible was usually just a plain aluminum frame or a table of some type.
Uri Geller, self proclaimed psychic, used common magician's tricks to convince millions that he was something special and that he was not using magic. The "Amazing Randi" is noted for his work of exposing so-called "real magicians, psychics, mind readers, and holy men" - all who use basic parlor tricks to convince their audiences that they have a special gift that can not be purchased by anyone with $10 at a magic store located in a nearby strip mall.
The Watchtower is acting in a criminal manner by suggesting that a simple plastic toy could have any special power or satanic influence. You can now add Sparlock to Watchtower's fairy tales of Adam and Eve, the talking snake, Noah's ark, and Jonah and the "big freaking fish" (but not a whale).
I watched a preacher on TV one night proclaim that any version of the Bible that was not the Authorized King James of 1611 was "written by the Devil himself!" He went on to say that Jesus said everyone of the words as printed in that Bible just as they were written - even the "thees" and "thous"! He went on to say that if you read one of the modern translations you will instantly be possessed by Satan. Any sane person would recognize that the preacher was either insane or a total liar in every sense, and yet his followers nodded their heads in agreement along with their constant "amens" to every word he said.
And thus sayeth the Watchtower Governing Body. "If we say that plastic toys made in China or India can act on the Devil's behalf and can some how influence or weaken Jehovah's powers, that is 'the truth' as given us by holy spirit."
F'ing ridiculous and f'ing fraudulent.
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New DVD "Become Jehovah's Friend"
by treadnh2o inhey peeps,.
it's been a long while since i've posted (i am completely out - wife and kids still in) but thought you might this interesting.. they came home from the district convention yesterday with the new dvd intended for kids.
they popped it in right away and this is what happens:.
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Does anybody here know for sure what day and time the DVD was released at the District Assembly?
The second DA for the coastal Pacific Northwest takes place this weekend. It's only a 5 minute drive for me to get over there. I don't mind wandering in and sitting through one talk, might even record it while there, but I really don't want to have to endure much more than that. I am fairly well known in the local Kingdom Hall area. Two JWs from the local KH dropped off an invitation two weeks ago, but their convention was last week at the same location. I should be unrecognized this weekend because most of the KHs are over 25 miles away.
I'd like to get a copy or two of the DVDs and also the talk that goes with it.
So - can anyone give me an idea of the best time to show up there? I think my wife tossed the invite, but I think the timing is probably the same for both convention weekends. Also, did they specifically recommen any particular donation?
I can't believe it only has the 4 segments. Kids will watch pt 1 and 2 a few times and then put the DVD away forever. JW always think that thowing out anything published by the WT Society is holy, so tossing anything out would be like a public Bible burning to them.
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Watchtower's New "Toy Story" - What Parents Need To Know
by cedars ini've uploaded a new blog article that addresses the latest dvd release at the current district convention, namely "become jehovah's friend!
" - the tale of young caleb and his brush with divine wrath over a plastic toy wizard.
a link to the article, which includes the youtube samples of the production, is below:.
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I thought I'd check-in before going to bed.
Jamie, Cedars is right. Please go to the Contact Us page and try sending your comment by using the form or sending Cedars an email. If that does not work, then the IP you are using is being blocked for some reason. It may be on a spam or hackers list and is being blocked automatically. This most often occurs when you are accessing the Internet from a coffee shop or a public place. Spammers go into a McDonalds with their laptops and dump a mass mailing of their ads or nasty emails. Then they leave and go to another. That poor McDonalds will have their WiFi blocked by hundreds of servers within a few hours.
If you send a automated form and it goes through, we can capture your IP (if it is your home or business) and we can put it on our "whitelist." That will allow you to access the site in the future without begin blocked.
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New DVD "Become Jehovah's Friend"
by treadnh2o inhey peeps,.
it's been a long while since i've posted (i am completely out - wife and kids still in) but thought you might this interesting.. they came home from the district convention yesterday with the new dvd intended for kids.
they popped it in right away and this is what happens:.
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Never mind. My bad.
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Downloadable leaflet "Highlights From The Finished Mystery"
by cedars ini've just finished my fourth and final "under the microscope" series of articles in which (hopefully) i've debunked many of the arguments often put forward by those claiming that jehovah's witnesses must be god's sole channel of communication with mankind.. this latest article focusses mostly on "the finished mystery" and the many errors contained therein that prove it couldn't possibly have been approved by christ when he was ostenisbly selecting the bible students as his chosen earthly representatives in 1919. i would like to thank and acknowledge alfred as being a huge help in compiling a list of key "highlights" of the book that serve to expose it for what it really is - a total work of fiction and absurdity.. shortly before alfred left this forum, we discussed the possibility of using his list to produce a special leaflet that people could print out themselves and insert in their "revelation climax" books, or "revelation climax" books belonging to family members.
i'm delighted to announce (with my best sunday afternoon convention speaker voice!
) that this leaflet is now ready, and available for download on the links below:.
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Oh mein Gott! Ach du lieber!
I just noticed that both Cedars and processor have swastika looking IP identifiers. Could this be significant? Are they both agents of Satan? I don't know, but they are talking about translating the flyer into German and Hitler spoke German. Could there be a connection?
Maybe those are just pinwheels...
Never mind.
JV